mf - story #6241 - Something that creates artifical borders.

Something that creates artifical borders.
posted by jenni on April 10th, 2012 at 10:47PM

Artificial borders creates nationalism
Nationalism creates hate
I don't like mean people.

posted by dennisn on April 10th, 2012 at 10:55PM

Yes, but what is this "something"? The argument in the video, which I whole-heartedly agree with, is that it's our own family and friends -- not some mysterious other monster, or other strangers.

And you can test this theory out. Ask your family and friends what they think of artificial borders.

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posted by jenni on April 11th, 2012 at 8:22PM

I don't agree with family and friends being the 'state', I think friends being the ones who censor people is a byproduct of the 'states' indoctrination of people, it goes with the idea that if the people are fighting amongst each other they won't fight those in power.

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posted by dennisn on April 11th, 2012 at 9:06PM

Are you trying to say your family and friends are indoctrinated / brainwashed by the state, currently? Perhaps you should ... uhh... mention this to them? :)

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posted by dennisn on April 11th, 2012 at 9:15PM

(I don't mean to say State propaganda/brainwashing plays no part -- it certainly does -- but I guess I'm not as pessimistic as you to argue that our fellow citizens are merely products/victims of "The State", rather than the producers of it. For example, your family and friends may argue that we need borders to stop heroin from coming in from overseas. They may hold many such (superficially) sensible opinions. Are you sure these opinions (which necessitate our much hated "artificial borders") are simply state-propaganda/brainwashing, or self-derived (flawed) ideas?)

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Sadly I think many people, not by jenni on April 12th, 2012 at 9:08AM.

I specifically asked about you by dennisn on April 12th, 2012 at 9:15AM.

My comments do apply to people by jenni on April 13th, 2012 at 2:38PM.

So you're saying your parents by dennisn on April 13th, 2012 at 9:05PM.

No no I don't support shooting by jenni on April 13th, 2012 at 10:35PM.

Yes, yes you do, in fact suppo by dennisn on April 13th, 2012 at 11:40PM.

If you can tell me a way where by jenni on April 14th, 2012 at 6:39PM.

Sure, I can tell you a way whe by dennisn on April 14th, 2012 at 11:43PM.

But you make it sound like eve by jenni on April 15th, 2012 at 8:12AM.

I have never claimed that "eve by dennisn on April 15th, 2012 at 9:40AM.

Some people have parents who c by jenni on April 15th, 2012 at 7:00PM.

My point was that I still don' by dennisn on April 15th, 2012 at 10:47PM.

By the way, there is another " by dennisn on April 15th, 2012 at 10:49PM.

(Also, The State is more than by dennisn on April 12th, 2012 at 9:17AM.

posted by jenni on April 11th, 2012 at 8:35PM

I still didn't answer the question though...

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posted by jenni on April 11th, 2012 at 9:52AM

The video link did not work on my computer so if you can somehow send it to me via email that would rock, because this argument about it being our friends and family sounds quite interesting....

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posted by dennisn on April 11th, 2012 at 9:54AM

It's a direct link to the video-file :p. Try something like right-clicking the link / saving-as... and then playing the file in your favorite video player.

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