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posted by dennisn on April 13th, 2012 at 11:40PM
Yes, yes you do, in fact support shooting me. Because I do not want to "give equally to a 'state' for later redistribution". So, either you abolish this state that you have in mind ('cuz I'm not participating in it voluntarily), or shoot me. Which is it?
(Good luck with asking them tomorrow! Be sure to let me know how it goes :D)
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posted by jenni on April 14th, 2012 at 6:39PM
If you can tell me a way where everyone is treated well and equally and has access to all of the same stuff that you or I have access to and not just assume that at least some of the population would give and ignore the fact that time and time again people do bad things to each other, most of those people being in the current state and divisions of said state then I will abolish any idea of statehood. I do believe in the idea that we could all live peacefully and well if we all thought of each other as equals and not have any 'state' in progress, but alas, this is not the current situation and I feel like it is better to begin by fixing things that could work then just breaking everything down and starting over.
Parental units will be asked shortly!
p.s. please write more questions as I will most likely have some downtime on my voyage and this is quite fun!
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posted by dennisn on April 14th, 2012 at 11:43PM
Sure, I can tell you a way where everyone is treated well and "equally". The way you behave in your "private" / personal life! I remember asking you before, who are these "bad people" that you are so afraid of? What "bad things" are you so afraid they will do? Are they in your real / personal life -- or just fictions -- perhaps bashed into our heads from public indoctrination camps (public schools)? You are willing to initiate violence against me, because of these people and these things. The onus is entirely on you to prove to me that pointing a gun to my head is necessary to guard against them, and what you think they will do. I have no obligation in this whatsoever. I would never dare point a gun at you.
We are also starting to get too tangled up in this ugly social knot. For the sake of clarity, let's just pick on one thing -- let's say public schooling. I say the current system is quite evil, and I definitely would never support it. Will you let me withdraw my support? And even if the most awesome school, that only taught physics and linux and hacking and punk music and anarchy would be an option, I still would not want to be forced at gunpoint to pay for it. Maybe I won't have kids, or for whatever other selfish reason, I won't want to spend money on others. Will you let me choose how to spend my money, or will you point a gun to my head, and force me to spend it according to your commands?
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posted by jenni on April 15th, 2012 at 8:12AM
But you make it sound like everyone is as nice and fair as we are, but that's just not the case, and I agree that people shouldn't be forced to do things I just can't seem to forget about the selfish things I have been hearing about for most of my adult life. Maybe I just listen to to much news, but I doubt it.
I find it hard to just sit back and listen to my friends who really do want to go to university and learn hands on about whatever they want to learn but can't because they don't have enough money, for even the cheapest education in the country. All forms of education should be accessible to all, whether its punk rock school or yoga school. Perhaps one day all teachers and educators will work on a barter system but until then then I want to try to make the best of what we do have, or since I do like your ways perhaps while I am away you can start a revolution and make me come back to a better town.
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