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posted by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:14PM

I suppose, technically, you're right. But, 99.9999..99% of the time "anarchy" is used with respect to politics and the abolition of "legalized" coercion. It is almost /never/ used with respect to ALL rules.

Saying that any rule (be it an internet protocol, or driving behaviour on highways) contradicts the anarchist spirit is REALLY stretching the definition.

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posted by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:27PM

Anarchy is primarily associated with politics, yes, but ask a group of philosophers [of which I am a part], and they will say it is ALSO a descriptive term. For example, in philosophy of science, an anarchist is commonly understood as one who abandons any formal formulation for the definition of science and scientific method (propounded first by Paul Feyerabend).

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posted by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 8:29PM

Epistemological anarchism. It makes sense, now that I looked it up, albeit if one hopes to validate the bible by it (anything more than the most abstract concept of a "god"), good luck.

There are a million things you can apply the idea of "anarchy" to. It was very clear which one I was referring to.

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posted by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:32PM

Hahah. That's a pretty despicable definition. I've also seriously heard it equated *directly* to violence. Obviously, defined so horribly, no reasonable person would approve of it.

But if AN ARCHOS, which literally and simply means NO GOVERNMENT no longer just means NO GOVERNMENT, what word shall we use?

I really hate to admit it, but we have lost the battle for the word. It has been subverted, mangled, rendered meaningless.

Henceforth, to avoid inevitable confusion, I am a Notaxorpoliceorpublicserviceslave. Let's see them subvert that word!

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posted by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:37PM

Also, you overextend the meaning of "archos". It only meant leader/first person.

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posted by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:39PM

It tended to refer to oligarchies and monarchies, which a government is not exclusive to.

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It never only tended to these by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 8:22PM.

A government most definitely i by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:42PM.

Fine, it can be similar to it by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:45PM.

Is exactly precisely that. ARC by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:46PM.

And there are many flavours of by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:47PM.

"an" meaning without or not by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:39PM.

Ok, so if anarchy is directly by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:42PM.

You'll notice the roots of the by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:46PM.

Ancient Greek morphology is "c by Driusan on August 29th, 2008 at 6:57PM.

Yes. I can't think of any conf by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:59PM.

It's not confusing. My point by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 7:58PM.

Not really. Even with the wier by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 8:15PM.

Notaxorpoliceorpublicserviceslave!!!!
posted by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:34PM

Excellent - please only ever use that word!

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posted by dennisn on August 29th, 2008 at 6:16PM

You'll also note the lack of enforcement here. And the fact that the festival was entirely voluntary. Trying to find something anti-anarchist here is pretty meaningless.

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posted by Nylorac on August 29th, 2008 at 6:28PM

I shall agree.

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