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posted by unavailable on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:24AM

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posted by dennisn on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:29AM

I suppose, purely from a mindless marketing perspective. They could just as easily have marketed it as left-wing, in the sense that we want to "work together" for liberty/choice. But, to be honest, I can't stand shallow people who are too dumb to actually understand concepts. If anyone honestly thinks that screaching "right-wing!" or "anarchist!" is an argument -- I really don't want them around me anyways.

posted by unavailable on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:44AM

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posted by dennisn on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:53AM

Don't you feel uneasy or dirty or something, having to censor yourself, and choose your words anally, to avoid stepping on the fragile egg-shells of indoctrinated automatons? Personally, I would prefer not to. It's not about confrontation -- it's simply about the freedom to say truths the way I want to. (Not the way Dave wants me to.)

posted by unavailable on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:06PM

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I actually think this bending- by dennisn on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:13PM.
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Its more than marketing
posted by unavailable on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:43AM

You make a good point, that i partly agree with;   and we also have different way. we've argued about this before anyways.

you prefer conflict/confrontation and discarding people as idiots if they dont get your point Right Away, and dont think convincing someone with a gun in his hand will make him lower it.

i opt for trying to convince in all honesty and not cause reactions because that is how i think information gets through better, because what i basically want is for the Deaf gunman to drop it.   I might have to learn sign-language for that, and it will be worth it.

Obviously, my thinking is based on my experience of how i react and learn things.  

What i am questionning, as mentionned earlier, is really the necessity of using this standard label instead of another more powerfull, appealing and CLear one such as non-agression, freedom etc..

And i do get your point about non-thinkers.   but everyone can think, and sometimes its a question of unlocking and undoing alot of stuff we've been programmed with.  

It is my personal preferrence to seek unity rather then reject.

posted by dennisn on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:35AM

Ie. If there is someone like Dave, who would pass by this organization, see the label "right-wing", then immediately walk away, we don't want him. We don't want to lower ourselves to the lowest-common-denominator -- to appease the non-thinkers. Thinking is a pre-requisite.

posted by unavailable on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:45AM

so cocky :)