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posted by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 6:24PM
last edited July 10th, 2023 at 6:26PM

> I thought the whole point of Georgism was that land is a finite resource

Yes, exactly. That's why land should be taxed. Anybody can have as much land as they pay LVT for. Doesn't matter who possesses it or how much they possess as long as they pay the LVT. There's no need to over-complicate this.

> But you're saying that there is no limit to how much land anyone can own?

Nobody can *own* land. People can only *possess* land.

> So Bill Gates can own most of North America, as I heard he's trying to do (buying farmland)?"

If the land value is being taxed and he's paying for it, then where's the problem here?

If the land is being taxed to its maximum value, then it's also being used to its maximum efficiency. As determined by The Free Market.

And of course, the same rule applies to reproduction licenses. You can have as many children as you can pay for. Eventually there'd be a maximum quota after several generations in ideal circumstances.
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posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 6:30PM

> Doesn't matter who possesses it or how much they possess

Are you retarded? So Bill Gates can deforest the entire Amazon Rainforest? He can probably afford it, given all the money he leeched from his corrupt government dealings.

> Nobody can *own* land. People can only *possess* land.

You're either dumb or dishonest. It's hard to tell now. In communism/georgism, the "central committee", the "inner circle" owns the land. SOMEONE obviously owns it, and defines the rules for it! Dude, you haven't thought through anything!?

> then it's also being used to its maximum efficiency

That's an undefined term in this context. It matters how the money was gotten - and the fact that you have no qualms that it was gotten by corruption ("Who gives a shit" -- Zero) is disturbing and will predictably lead to bad outcomes ... but sure, over many generations, the inefficiencies of evil (a subtle but important point that you probably don't even support) will sort themselves out - the righteous will outcompete the evil scum.

posted by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 6:35PM

> So Bill Gates can deforest the entire Amazon Rainforest?

No. Because that would be pollution and environmental destruction. And Georgists also support pollution taxes. If Bill Gates did that, he would be broke poor for the rest of his life.

Nobody could ever have enough money to buy the Amazon rainforest. In fact, Georgists wouldn't even allow Amazonian land to be up for sale. We support public possession of land when it protects the environment.

> Haven't you thought through anything?

Yes, I have. Private possession prevents Tragedies of the Commons. Public ownership of land improves economic growth and environmental protection.

> and the fact that you have no qualms that it was gotten by corruption

I am against all forms of government corruption, unless it's corruption that weakens Russia, China, North Korea, etc.

> That's an undefined term in this context.

No, it isn't. The meaning is quite clear: https://zerocontradictions...vator-pitch.html

posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 6:43PM

> that would be pollution

No, it can be done with minimal pollution.

> environmental destruction

Subjective. Obviously he sees the move as enhancing his environment.

> If Bill Gates did that, he would be broke poor for the rest of his life.

Retarded reasoning. There are a zillion ways he can profit from this move. You lack intelligence / creativity. Back to the drawing board kid!

> Nobody could ever have enough money to buy the Amazon rainforest.

How much does it cost? (Rhetorical question, dumbass ;)

> We support public possession of land

Nonensical/dishonest commie rhetoric. There's no such thing as "the public". It's really stupid and shallow commie propaganda. There are only individuals. My kind of individuals would implement very very different rules on their lands than your faggot group of individuals. In both cases, a tiny group of individuals define the rules. Again, back to the drawing board retard. Think before you type!

> I am against all forms of government corruption

YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID YOU DONT GIVE A SHIT THAT BLITHERING AND MY BRO AND ALHAZRED MAKE THEIR MONEY VIA EVIL/CORRUPTION!!?? YOU DISHONEST CLOWN!

> The meaning is quite clear

It was not clear at all you dishonest fuck. You simply said "maximizing efficiency" - you never bothered to define what exactly you're maximizing. And just a second ago you invoked the super arbitrary and subjective and vague notion of "environmental destruction." You are a real mess dude!

posted by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 7:23PM

> No, it can be done with minimal pollution.

You're missing the point. The bottom line is that if he or anyone damages the environment, there is a very harsh fine to pay, even debtor's prisons if needed.

> There are a zillion ways he can profit from this move.

Not if the pollution tax is high enough.

> How much does it cost?

It's not for sale, tranny.

> There's no such thing as "the public".

HAHAHAHA! I had a good laugh out of that one.

> government corruption

It's good for the corrupt people who profit, and bad overall for society. No contradictions here. You know that which side I'm on depends on the context and which governments we're talking about.

> It was not clear at all

Yes it is. You just don't know how to read. The webpages define it very clearly.

> You're missing the point. by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 8:31PM.
> The definition of "environme by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 9:20PM.
> Ancaps don't have a reliable by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 9:36PM.