posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 9:36PM

> Ancaps don't have a reliable solution

The argument is that humans generally seek to do good, for numerous reasons (mirror neurons, logic, tit-for-tat, etc). But your insecure ass wants MORE ASSURANCE, like a faggot baby, so you retardedly propose a super powerful central unaccountable monopoly organization to pinky-promise to solve all your major problems, and conveniently retardedly ignore the zillions of stories about this in collected human history - power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, yada yada

There are over a million creative ways that ancaps can handle a deforestation problem like that, that don't involve enslaving the entire human species under a single all-powerful ruling elite, who pinky promised never to abuse their power. Clown. World.

> the taxation is done in proportion to how much pollution there is

LEARN. TO. READ. YOU STUPID FUCK. The idea of "pollution" is arbitrary/subjective! I mentioned the co2 example. The same can be said for air temperature, or tree coverage!

> a free market that tells people how much land costs.

BUT THERE IS NO MARKET IN THE AMAZON RAIN FOREST - SO BILL GATES CAN PROBABLY EASILY BUY IT ALL FOR UNDER A BILLION! The "liquidity" in that market is almost zero! (Mostly due to evil gov laws stifling any such market or respect for land rights.) As if the status quo wasn't bad enough, your dumbass proposal would allow (encourage actually) the whole forest to be bought, because, as you said, there's no limit, if you have the $$ you can have as much land as you want! GREAT management of finite resources there, fag!

> Ancaps don't favor measuring pollution.

Oh you and your gay strawmen. I favor measuring pollution, ergo you're WRONG, stupid fuck!

> They believe in might makes right when it comes to pollution.

Another gay strawman. We believe in CONTRACTS, you gay fuck. That's roughly the opposite of "might makes right". Fuck you. Go back to your masturbation sessions, alone in your dark corner. You aren't here to debate or learn. You really really love those straw men!

>> "Society", like "the public" doesn't exist - they're abstractions.
> You say that, and then you turn around and acknowledge the existence of the Canadian government and how it opposes you

Learn english, turd. "society" != "the canadian gov". The canadian gov is a small group of sick psychopaths, a lot like you. And even they don't "oppose me". I can easily take them out. They hire bigger men with guns to do the actual dirty work. But hey, don't let me interrupt your circle jerk with your straw.

> I said that in the context of a single man having to earn a living for his starving family.

Nice evasoin there, faggot. Also, it wasn't about a single man. You were pressuring ME to ALSO similarly abandon my concerns about justice and fairness, to abandon my principles. Because that's what you are doing / want to do too. Loooool. So pathetic.

> The persistence of Modern Civilization and Wealth.

HAHAHAAHAHAH. TOO. CRINGE.

Okay fag, that clarifies everything. Thanks for the clarification. So you agreed that you are indeed trying to maximize wealth, amorally (you didnt mention anything about justice or morality, so that's the implication). And then you throw in YET ANOTHER UNCLEAR WORD ... "persistence". Well, one way to maximize "persistence of modern civilization" is to enslave everyone in bubble wrapped rooms, with computers and AI, right?

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