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posted by jenni on December 20th, 2014 at 4:28PM

See now this post made me tear up and it fed my hatred for shitty people even more. Then it made me realize how hypocritical my actions can be as my love for cheese gets me every time. These (and those who support such acts?) violent people have not dealt with their childhood trauma.
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posted by dennisn on December 20th, 2014 at 6:22PM

I'm pretty sure this is basically how all *mainstream* (hence the title) meat and animal products are derived? Perhaps not quite as cruelly, but cruelly nevertheless.

posted by jenni on December 20th, 2014 at 9:37PM

Unless you buy your meat from the nicest farmer at a market or your local hunter I think its safe to say factory-farmed poorly treated creatures are the norm. Now the question of how can one not consider animals under the NAP comes to mind...

posted by dennisn on December 20th, 2014 at 9:48PM

Animals don't have rights. They don't have the cognitive capacity to articulate them, or respect them for other creatures. If they did, your cat, for example, would be a serial killer. (Okay, maybe not your cat -- she would merely be an accomplice to serial murder, but my cat would definitely be guilty of murder -- for "murdering" mice.)

posted by jenni on December 20th, 2014 at 10:11PM

But as a being that is capable of cognitive reasoning how can I dismiss the fact that I am destroying/killing things for my own selfish reasons? I don't need cheese to survive but I really want it; what if another person is deeply in love with all animals, am I not hurting that person somehow by killing these creatures they love?

(The only crime my cat has committed is that of being too cute)

You shouldn't dismiss the fact by dennisn on December 21st, 2014 at 5:32AM.
The NAP could be seen as yet a by jenni on December 23rd, 2014 at 12:06PM.
What do you mean "as opposed t by dennisn on December 23rd, 2014 at 7:54PM.
Would it be possible for peopl by jenni on December 25th, 2014 at 12:05PM.
I'm not sure what you mean by by dennisn on December 25th, 2014 at 2:02PM.