posted by dsk on November 23rd, 2011 at 8:39PM
>Although, even that is not a great argument, since if you're managing 5000 workstations, they're probably all variants of just a couple prototype/master machines
No. Different departments have different upgrade paths. End-users may wish to access resources from outside of work. For example, they may choose to take a day off but still log in from the home machine to check on a resources. Or they may be on business in another country. Or maybe you may want to give guest privileges to a contractor whose only around for a few weeks or months, or guest privileges to a visiting client. Do you want the hassle of managing all those other workstation, when you could simply have them point their web-browser to a url containing your rich web app? Do you have to worry that they run the proper OS or force them to run one that is compatible with your application? Do you want to spend hours or days debugging an app to run on some exotic hardware when technology exists to you don't have to?
See how unimaginative you are? The kinds of problems a web solves? Should come as a shock to you.
No. Different departments have different upgrade paths. End-users may wish to access resources from outside of work. For example, they may choose to take a day off but still log in from the home machine to check on a resources. Or they may be on business in another country. Or maybe you may want to give guest privileges to a contractor whose only around for a few weeks or months, or guest privileges to a visiting client. Do you want the hassle of managing all those other workstation, when you could simply have them point their web-browser to a url containing your rich web app? Do you have to worry that they run the proper OS or force them to run one that is compatible with your application? Do you want to spend hours or days debugging an app to run on some exotic hardware when technology exists to you don't have to?
See how unimaginative you are? The kinds of problems a web solves? Should come as a shock to you.
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posted by dennisn on November 23rd, 2011 at 9:19PM
You are just repeating yourself. All you said here is that it offers a "cross-platform" framework. We've been through all this before, I swear. Not only does cross-platform shit already exist (GTK/Qt for the UI, and countless libraries, etc), not only has cross-platform shit been the holy grail since computers were invented (it's not that it's technically hard to achieve -- it's that morons like you buy retarded piece-of-shit software that *deliberately* fucks you in the ass with *deliberately* non-standard proprietary crap. But, instead of addressing the real fucking problem, you shit a whole new layer of crap out of your ass to try to bandage things together. (Gentoo has no problem talking to the BSDs or Ubuntu.)), but I don't even care if you actually prefer this crap -- just don't stuff it down other people's throats, who actually have a decent operating system that respects standards. Just because your OS is an evil piece of shit, doesn't mean you can invent an entirely new abstraction layer in the first program in your start menu (they could have added this abstraction layer anywhere, but since it's geared towards morons, that's where it went), and then start jumping up like a lunatic trying to get everyone else (who already has everything you're offering) to install it too, and pretending like it's now some integral part of websites -- web 2.0!!1! (Except, as I mentioned, probably everything you're drooling and fantasizing about already exists.)
But, even if I go out on a very long and weak limb and buy your bullshit that any of the crap you're talking about is useful, you still haven't addressed any of the fundamental criticisms I raised about JS! Seems to me like you aren't here to debate -- you just want someone to validate your closed-mind. |
