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posted by dennisn on January 28th, 2011 at 11:55AM
And I quote:
"Knowing [that rapists exist in a room], the woman puts on a hat and walks into the room with the rapist, and that is not equipped with tools to defend against the rapist. Is what she did her fault?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but your implication was that it is? (If it's not, then great, we're on the same page! Rapists (ie. pro-taxation people, etc, etc) are 100% guilty. Case closed.
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posted by Nylorac on January 28th, 2011 at 11:57AM
...so I quote:
Asking if she is at fault is fruitless. The answer will be 'no', but you're overlooking the very much more important question: why would she knowingly do that? IMHO, at the very least, it's irrational. It seems like suicide. It's masochistic. She may not be at fault, but do we fault the rapist for being a rapist? You are wont to say 'yes', but that seems hardly fair. You abhor the rapist who acts according to his/her nature, but exalt the irrational woman who knowingly betrays herself. It's curious.
If it was to make an example of herself, then she needn't have done it. Everyone knew the rapist was a rapist.
If it was because she felt wronged because she was not able to enjoy the room that the rapist was in because the rapist was in it, then she was being selfish. Part of our assumption was that the rapist wasn't coming after her.
I lean most towards the former, but also believe that she also had masochistic tendencies. Am I right? Is that why you moved to Quebec?
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posted by dennisn on January 28th, 2011 at 1:14PM
So, to recap, you started your thread with something like:
"Why don't you just accept the hypocritical nature of your living in Montreal?"
To which you now flippantly say:
"Asking if [you are] at fault is fruitless. The answer will be 'no'."
So.......
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posted by Nylorac on January 30th, 2011 at 2:34PM
So ... what?
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posted by dennisn on January 28th, 2011 at 12:12PM
"The woman betrays herself [when she is raped, for not having protected herself better.]"
LOL again! More classic Statism. Yahooo!
By the way, I am not wherever I am to make an example of myself. I am simply here because I know very cool people here. I am not "betraying" myself. I'm really not asking for a lot -- just stopping rape. Really.
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posted by dennisn on January 28th, 2011 at 12:08PM
"It seems unfair to fault a rapist for being a rapist."
LOL. Classic! That's a keeper. Hurray Statism!
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posted by dennisn on January 28th, 2011 at 12:02PM
No, in fact it is not at all irrational *for me to exist*. There are rapists *everywhere* -- you, for example, are one. The primary, and only important point, is that of the *rapist*.
And there was no assumption that the rapist wasn't raping :P. Lol. The whole point of having the god-damned rapist in the thought experiment, was because of his raping! Otherwise, he's just a normal inoffensive dude!
The rapists in Quebec are just as violent and vulgar as those in Ontario. I don't see your point in "preferring anal rape over vaginal rape".
Honestly nylorac, why can't you just say rape is wrong. Period. Why all this shady confused secondary argumentation?
More pertinently, do *you* support rape?
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