Dennis's Economic Illiteracy
posted by sleepy-sniper on July 12th, 2023 at 1:25PM
posted by sleepy-sniper on July 12th, 2023 at 1:25PM
> Income, sales, property taxes would help with resource management.
No, they wouldn't. You don't understand economics.
If you tax income, then labor becomes more expensive. That doesn't improve the economy.
If you tax sales, then there are fewer sales. That doesn't improve the economy.
If you tax property, then people will refuse to renovate decaying properties to save money and housing becomes more expensive. Once again, that doesn't improve the economy.
But if you tax land value, then land is used more efficiently. People can't speculate with it. People won't bother owning land that they don't need to own. It prevents rent-seeking: https://zerocontradictions...tml#rent-seeking
And sufficiently high land value taxes prevent shitty urban planning scenarios like this:
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And this: https://zerocontradictions...age-inefficiency.
> For example, if helium or some rare-earth mineral is in short supply, why not tax it and ration it?
Yes, helium should be taxed. If the Earth ever runs out of helium, the people of the future will wish that it had been taxed, because that would've discourage people from wasting helium on unproductive things, like floating balloons at birthday parties and shit. The end result is that the world runs out of helium at a much, much later date, and that helium is only used for actually important purposes.
No, they wouldn't. You don't understand economics.
If you tax income, then labor becomes more expensive. That doesn't improve the economy.
If you tax sales, then there are fewer sales. That doesn't improve the economy.
If you tax property, then people will refuse to renovate decaying properties to save money and housing becomes more expensive. Once again, that doesn't improve the economy.
But if you tax land value, then land is used more efficiently. People can't speculate with it. People won't bother owning land that they don't need to own. It prevents rent-seeking: https://zerocontradictions...tml#rent-seeking
And sufficiently high land value taxes prevent shitty urban planning scenarios like this:
.And this: https://zerocontradictions...age-inefficiency.
> For example, if helium or some rare-earth mineral is in short supply, why not tax it and ration it?
Yes, helium should be taxed. If the Earth ever runs out of helium, the people of the future will wish that it had been taxed, because that would've discourage people from wasting helium on unproductive things, like floating balloons at birthday parties and shit. The end result is that the world runs out of helium at a much, much later date, and that helium is only used for actually important purposes.
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posted by dennisn on July 14th, 2023 at 10:23PM
What do you think the difference between "property taxes" and "land value taxes" is? I'm pretty sure they're the same thing. I'm pretty sure you're just dumb/young/uninformed.
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posted by dennisn on July 14th, 2023 at 9:54PM
> If you tax income, then labor becomes more expensive. That doesn't improve the economy.
Your goal, as a cucked Georgist, is not merely to "improve the economy", whatever that means. As you've stated many many times, it's resource management. Income taxes can be used to further that end. Clearly you haven't thought much through. > If you tax sales, then there are fewer sales. That doesn't improve the economy. You're schtizo. That's the capitalist / ancap argument, retard. YOUR higher priority is resource management though, and population control, not "improving the economy [at all costs]". > If you tax property, then people will refuse to renovate decaying properties to save money and housing becomes more expensive. Stupid reasoning, none of that makes sense :P. Why the fuck would a tax on property make people less willing to renovate?! Were you high? Sure, maybe they might spend a bit less on renovation than they otherwise would have, but how the fuck do you go from "spending a bit less" to "letting it decay". > and housing becomes more expensive. So what? That would probably mean people will be less likely to have kids, etc - ie. an effective method for population control. You are incoherent. > But if you tax land value, then land is used more efficiently. So taxing houses/income/products makes the use of those things less efficient, but taxing land value makes land more efficient. Great logic :|. You're dumb. > People can't speculate with it. Why not? The last so-called Georgist I talked to said that the parcels of land can't be sold, so I don't know who to believe. Do Georgists allow the sale of land? And if so, why wouldn't there be speculation, like there is with literally everything else in any market? > People won't bother owning land that they don't need to own. Nobody does that, nerd. Step away from your keyboard some time, and try going outside. Your view of the world is cringe and insane :P. > It prevents rent-seeking ^ Says the literal biggest rent-seeker, who will scrape huge amounts of money from every land-sale transaction (what % do you reckon? and what will you do with all that pile of gold again, if not welfare?) > shitty urban planning scenarios like this: That's not "shitty", imho, you arrogant prick. Just cuz YOU don't like someone else's decisions (or a group of people), doesn't mean that that decision is "bad", you creep. All the houses beside that guy's mansion are so fucking nasty and ugly - copy-pasted commie houses. Maybe he's waiting for an actually inspiring architect to make better use of his land. Those single family homes are also horrible urban planning - Toronto is currently battling them, they make up like 80% of our area, and they oppose densifying. Maybe that mansion guy will be the first to erect a proper urban skyscraper. Either way, it's none of your fucking business you commie creep. Get your own fucking land, there's tonnes of it that's unowned. The only option you commies consider is theft. (And, again, super schitzo to mention this, right after pretending to care about free market economics looool.) > Yes, helium should be taxed Thought so. And the same logic applies to every other resource. King George needs to ensure that future generations will have "adequate" amounts of Earth's resources, "the free market" is not capable of self-regulating, just like they can't manage land distribution, and breeding.
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posted by Dumb nigger on July 12th, 2023 at 1:27PM
Gosh. I didn’t know that this nigga was this fucked up altho I suspected it. Such a loser :(
Maybe he will spend less time on the internet and kill himself. |
