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posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 9:00PM

> If people will choose to not follow morality, then it's NOT universally preferable. Get that through your fucking skull.

HAaaahahahahaa. Holy fuck you're so stupid. Molyneux has explained this a zillion times, a million times in his book. "Preferable" != "preferred" you fucking dishonest strawmanning fag :P. That's suuuuch a retarded strawman, you're really fucking dumb and dishonest. It means the behavior has to be "able to be preferred". In Stef's book, he used the example of a "coma test" .. someone in a coma can't be responsible for any actions or inactions since he's not in a state where he can choose. HAAAHahaha. Fuck off. The fucking arrogance of your dumb ass is impressive.

To repeat, cuz this really needs repeating, did you really think that me and Molyneux, and Hoppe and Kinsella and Dave Smith and Michael Malice all thought that EVERYONE UNIVERSALLY PREFERS TO BE GOOD?!?!?!

Retard, sit down, stfu, and think about this for a solid few minutes. How was it possible that you (and Blithering) were able to entertain such a fucking retarded thought? :))))))
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posted by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 9:23PM

> Molyneux, and Hoppe and Kinsella and Dave Smith and Michael Malice all thought that EVERYONE UNIVERSALLY PREFERS TO BE GOOD

They don't even know what "good" is. And neither do you. It's relative, subjective, and arbitrary.

posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 11:08PM

All us ancaps know what it is. Hoppe and Kinsella and Malice would frame it differently, but arrive at the same NAP conclusion. Kinsella comes at it from a legal perspective (estoppel). Hoppe comes at it from a linguistic angle (argumentation ethics). I think Malice might use Moly's UPB framing, but probably reword it more pedestrianly. Dave Smith would use UPB.

Ancaps don't define "the good" - more evidence that you don't even know the position you're attacking. You strawmanning faggot :P. Again, read more, type less. We define "the bad" - initiation of aggression, and only those actions can be acted upon (as revenge, retaliation, defense). No positive obligation can be universally justified.

posted by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 11:16PM

> Ancaps don't define "the good"

That's not what you said in the third debate.

posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 11:19PM

Yes it was, dishonest fag

posted by dennisn on July 10th, 2023 at 9:02PM

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH. And right after you strawman me AGAIN, you have the balls to assert:

> You've strawmanned me many times, and I've never strawmanned you once.

HAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.

posted by sleepy-sniper on July 10th, 2023 at 9:23PM

Whatever, retard.