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posted by dsk on November 23rd, 2011 at 8:34PM

>Webpages were designed for blogs and information

Very early versions of the web were designed to handle only simple marked up text. THAT WAS THE STARTING POINT, NOT THE END POINT.

>Nobody ever brought the value of webpages into dispute.

You did. You still do. Because you are a retard, who doesn't know he's a retard. *THIS* isn't a webpage as originally envisioned. It doesn't just serve lightly marked up text. It's a content management system that handles user input (files and text), centrally manages and stores it and returns it specifically formatted to users (formatting that is context sensitive, allowing it, for example to correctly display links to images as images and polls). You've already went beyond the confines of what "Webpages" were originally envisioned it to be.
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posted by dennisn on November 23rd, 2011 at 9:26PM

Fair enough. I am all for evolving websites, and browsers too. Having centrally-controlled, non-customizable, 100%cpu consuming, crippled apps in my webpages is not evolution, IMHO.

posted by dsk on November 23rd, 2011 at 10:02PM

>Having centrally-controlled, non-customizable, 100%cpu consuming, crippled apps in my webpages is not evolution, IMHO."

Google docs. 10 local clients editing a session. cpu usage, 5%. 0% when no editing performed. What the fuck are you talking about? 100% consuming my ass. You're a retard .. seriously, leave 1998. It was a good time for you. Your squeegee to academic pursuit ratio was at an all time low. But man, got to move on.

And what is this centrally-controlled, non-customizable? What the fuck do you call this site? Not centrally-controlled? Fully customizable?

posted by dennisn on November 23rd, 2011 at 10:09PM

You really have trouble reading. My JavaShit implementation (from Webkit) regularly uses 100%, for many seconds, to load what appears to be a pretty basic webpage -- for many websites. But I guess only your JavaShit implementation counts. (In which case, you really shouldn't be touting JS, but whatever specific fucking implementation it is that you use.)

How the fuck does providing another example of a centrally controlled setup respond to the criticism that JS is centrally controlled crap? I fully acknowledge that this site is shitty, that you can't control it's layout or theme (that much), etc. It would be far better to move it to NNTP, where you could use any of the myriad of newsreader clients that already exist to interact with it.

posted by dsk on November 24th, 2011 at 1:30PM

>You really have trouble reading.

You have no reading comprehension. This isn't about wasted cpu cycles of JS engines. If you're using a browser or rendering engine with shit JS, that's your problem. Google's JS engine, for example, is not interpreted but rather compiled straight to native at runtime - and it's really quick. Another example: If you use WebGL the graphics pipeline is offloaded to the GPU - no cpu cycles.

Tell me, if the next generation JS engines is super-fast, would that make a difference to you? No? Then don't throw these red-herrings around.

And it's not about JS either (example: Google wants to put another interpreted language in their browser). It's about what the web is and what it could be and how fuckin stupid you are because you're stuck in 1998.

>How the fuck does providing another example of a centrally controlled setup respond to the criticism that JS is centrally controlled crap?

BECAUSE JS DOES NOT IMPLY A 'CENTRALLY CONTROLLED SETUP' ANY MORE THAN A STRAIGHT HTML PAGE - DUMB FUCK. Seriously do you practice at stupid or does it come naturally faggot?

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