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posted by unavailable on August 24th, 2010 at 11:38AM

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posted by dennisn on August 25th, 2010 at 12:45PM

A slippery snake oil salesman, this Thomas Hanna is. This entire article, besides being quite crazy many times, is pure handwaving. No references to experiments are mentioned (not even anecdotally :b). It's one loony dude bragging about how awesome he is. He's not.

The places where he tries to dabble in science are truly painful to read. They make essentially no sense whatsoever. His useless description of the carbon atom is not only wrong, but pointless. His mentioning e=mc2 would have been hilarious, if the article was intended to be a humorous spoof on "new-age pseudoscience". His views on aging are patently false -- aging is genetic, and it does deteriorate the body -- as cells divide, each time (I think), a part of the DNA (telomeres) is lost in the child copies, which (I think) leads to mistakes or other problems -- degradation. No matter how much he /wants/ to slow or stop this process, he can't. (Of course, criticizing John Doe's diet and lifestyle is perfectly valid -- but please, not the science, especially if one only has one year of crappy casual attendance at a medical school under one's belt.)

(His molestation of the word "science" is also repugnant. This "somatic" stuff is absolutely not scientific. It's *pseudoscience* which is pretty much as far away from science as one can get :b. No rigor. No proof. Just wishful thinking. (Which I could easily do if I had a free hour and a penchant for deceiving the public.) Of course, there might be something behind the possible stress reduction of mythologies, such as this or any other religion.)

If there is anything behind learning from the perceptions of one's muscles/bones/etc, I certainly wouldn't study anything from this clown :S.

posted by unavailable on August 27th, 2010 at 7:50AM

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posted by dennisn on August 27th, 2010 at 10:36AM

He wasn't using science as a metaphor -- he was actually trying (miserably) to justify his beliefs using his pathetic knowledge of it. It wasn't the state-of-the-art that was lacking -- it was /his/ own misunderstandings of it. And his imagination. Everything he said about atomic physics and gravitational forces and cosmology were incredibly dumb, unproven, and almost certainly wrong, even many decades ago. The fact that he used this incredibly flawed hand-waving as the foundation for his theories (instead of simply using his own personal experiences) shows a very serious lack of honesty. A betrayal of trust. (Which is really hard to regain.) You shouldn't be surprised at my aversion.

1. Specialty degrees in psychosomatic medecine (a mostly-bullshit non-scientific invention of Hanna's), psychotherapy (again, mostly non-scientific bullshit, except for very rare properly done (double-blind rigorous studies) exceptions), general medecine (how many years of this, and how general :b -- sounds like a casual introduction -- aka. useless), and Public Health training (sounds more like public policy (in violent-medecine) then actual medecine :s) ... all those things really discredit Mr. Milz. Thanks for pointing them out! :P (Milz is obviously an un-educated (or, rather, mis-educated) disciple of Hanna's -- completely biased and unreliable. The whole article was basically Hanna (and his puppy dog) bragging about how awesome he is. No objective credible third-party anywhere in sight.)

2. I really think you should reconsider whatever course you're taking, if they us him, and people like him, as any kind of authority :S. There have to be more honest people out there in that field! (Regarding your muscle tension and analysis of it -- perfectly good and ok. If only Hanna stuck to this basic kinesiology I would have been happy. But he didn't. He strays far FAR into fantasy and bullshit -- it's more a religion laced with tidbits of science, then the reverse.)

3. Stop reading the theory :|. Just from that article I can assure you it's all (mostly all :b) wrong. Find real medical texts on kinesiology, and such. I'm sure there is a grain of truth in the muscle/brain patterning -- and I'm sure you can find it more properly and tersely described elsewhere.

4. His views on aging were:
--> "there are no such things as genetically programmed central nervous system deficits, loss of brain tissue, and other similar events that were assumed to take place both in the central nervous system and motor system during aging." FALSE.
--> "but we’re not bound to deteriorate or degenerate" FALSE

Again, he's right about a few things (how aging can be "slowed", or the quality of life of old age improved) but he takes this grain of truth to absurd religious dimensions. This is pseudoscience. The fact that he makes such statements as above, without a hint of skepticism or self-doubt, is what disturbs me the most. (Far more than the fact that they are wrong. His snake-oil-salesman dishonesty. (If he were honest, he would have prefaced a lot more of his statements with "current studies suggest" and "in my humble opinion" and "it hasn't been proven, but.." etc. But he didn't. Instead he presents them misleadingly as truths. Ugh.))

The articles you linked to are all interesting and irrelevant :b. Nobody is disputing neuroplasticity. I can go through that article sentence by sentence for you to show you his blatant lies and misunderstandings ... that he wraps around this grain of truth of a malleable brain.

And, you still seem to have a warped view of what "science" is. It's ALL there is :P. It *is* the search for knowledge/truth. Everything is "found out on the field" then later proved by rigorous testing. (A few things are first theorized then proved in the field -- either way, "the field" is a *key* component :b.) Unless he did rigorous studies (anecdotal stories from patients is almost entirely worthless), you can't trust his theories. (As if his lying wasn't enough to lose your trust in him :.) They are just handwaving. There are tonnes of people who HAVE done honest / rigorous studies in this field. You should be studying them instead.

5. Obviously there is a physical sensation to thoughts/emotions. Our brains are connected to our bodies :P. Nobody is disputing that. It's all the religion he wraps this around that really pisses me off :|.

It's not the language that appears crazy, it's HIM and his LIES and imaginative ideas. His language is ok.

His coincidental tendency toward voluntaryist thinking is refreshing to read, but a crazy voluntaryist is still a crazy person. I don't like crazy people.