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posted by clearaboutbeingconfused on July 14th, 2010 at 10:56AM

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posted by dennisn on July 14th, 2010 at 1:12PM

Well, I don't know if Johann was that extreme. His views, non-sensical as they are (how can a "freedom lover" hate the "free market" :s), seem to be reflected in pop-culture. Just ask a random person on the street what they think about private property and see for yourself.

In the face of violence (ie. the State, or any other form), of course one has a logical right to proportional violence (self-defense), but it's not the wisest solution. If the perpetrators of violence (ie. Dave) don't think they are being violent -- if they actually feel they are doing *good*, then no matter how many times you beat them, they'll continue doing it. The real war is in our minds -- disentangling dumb State propaganda that we've been brainwashed with since forever -- renouncing violence in all it's forms.

The word "anarchist", as you say, is FULL of misunderstanding. Anarchists have been equated to crazed bomb-throwers ever since the Haymarket riots in Boston in 1886 -- probably even earlier. It should come as no surprise that the State would try to smear it's arch-nemesis as much as possible. This is why we use the word "voluntaryist / voluntaryism" -- it's untainted, so far, by Statist double-speak, and seems quite pleasant and sensical.

(By the way, another great word that has been killed by revisionism and Statist bullshit is the word "Liberal". Originally it referred to libertarians and minarchists. Today it refers to the exact opposite -- big-State socialism. The US Democratic party around the time of Jefferson was quite a beauty -- relative to the monster of today.)

Your analysis of our primal fears relative to the State isn't quite correct :b. For one, we don't really have much safety now -- only an illusion of it, that has been bashed into our heads since the moment we entered the State's indoctrination camps. If we actually took safety seriously, I firmly believe we would come up with far better solutions on our own -- perhaps with security agencies who are actually held accountable to their customer's standards -- or with other clever dispute resolution organizations that can use countless alternative ways to help protect people (like non-violent ostracizing). It's not fear that prevents us from changing -- it's our inherent laziness mixed with State brainwashing.

Moreover, we are being directly assaulted by the State. The only reason people don't see it is because they have been broken -- they just bend over before being pushed over. But make no mistake -- the second you begin to think "hey -- fuck you -- I don't want to get ass fucked now", you will be directly physically assaulted. Just because we've been raped so often we just accept it, doesn't make rape right.

The concrete systematic solution is simple. There are only two options. Either our oppressors (ie. Dave) let us live freely via peaceful means (discussion), or we violently defend ourselves against such people. Both are technically good solutions -- one is probably suicidal.

How do you figure the Free State Project isn't well defined? :P What do you feel needs clarifying? From what I understand, it's a peaceful attempt to work within the system (vomit) to ultimately free ourselves from it (by voting it to oblivion.)