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posted by dennisn on October 4th, 2009 at 7:40PM
I guess it was relevant -- insofar as it shows the wrong-headedness of socialists -- who confuse real (Rand's) capitalism with state-capitalism (read: dictatorship) -- a non-negligible distinction, and the crux of that mises.org article.
The way it portrays socialism by socialists is hilarious. Utopianly ideal and peaceful -- which presupposes enlightenment, abolition of religion and all other non-reconcilable divisive forces. The saddest most pathetic thing I find among socialists (M. Moore, N. Klein, Dave's alter-ego) is their tedious denial of the gun.
Libertarianism and anarchy as described by everyone else is absurd and merely shows their immaturity and insincerity. I don't know where you found this, but I'm willing to bet it was from a popularist/socialist/liberal site that is trying to quell it's restless conscience by rationalizing it's violence as "a necessary evil". (A disgraceful site.)
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posted by Nylorac on October 4th, 2009 at 8:01PM
I got it from DSK. Where else? =)
I completely agree about the libertarian and anarchist diagrams. They *could* work for some people, but it's not so uniformly agreed upon that that's how they're seen. By far, the capitalist and socialist diagrams are the best - spot on, and funny.
My favourite is socialism described by capitalists. "Fuck you, you thief!" Well, that's how I interpret it. There was no consensus on the interpretation.
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posted by dennisn on October 4th, 2009 at 8:21PM
Your interpretation of the soc-described-by-caps diagram is exactly correct. How do you figure it's open to different interpretation?
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posted by Nylorac on October 4th, 2009 at 8:45PM
Well, I don't. But I showed this image to a lot of people, and got some other interpretations ... that I didn't agree with, so I didn't remember them.
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posted by dennisn on October 4th, 2009 at 8:26PM
The depiction of capitalism by socialists is misleading. If they mean the gun is state regulation and corporate-subsidy (corporatism), then sure. But if they mean "denying terrible-propagandized-state-education" is the same as holding a gun to one's head -- that's simply wrong. I guess this kills the joke, but that's reality.
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posted by dennisn on October 4th, 2009 at 8:18PM
What would your diagram for social organization be?
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posted by Nylorac on October 4th, 2009 at 8:46PM
I can't answer yet because I'm not sure what you're asking for. Do you mean for libertarianism and below? all of them? or something else?
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