mf - story #5003 - Holy mother fucking sadness

Holy mother fucking sadness
posted by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 2:01AM

Here's the post where I directly address Rand's emotional uninformative and blatantly incorrect assault on anarchy:

http://dennisn.mooo.com/m...ory.php?sid=4374

to which neither Princess Nylorac nor His Majesty Dsk had anything constructive to add, nor, OF COURSE, would they EVER admit error on their parts.

And yet tonight, Princess Nylorac suddenly found the testicles to reincarnate this very fucking argument--the very same mother fucking argument that Princess Nylorac had nothing to say about before when I explictly laid out my cards.

Now picture this. Me on my honest and open horse championing individual freedom--something that Princess Nylorac knows full well--being patronized and lectured by Princess Nylorac herself, who has many times proclaimed her pride in not giving a shit about coercive governments or state oppression, and being primarily concerned with her fucking social life.

Holy mother fucking sadness.

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posted by Nylorac on January 20th, 2009 at 10:14AM

I was honestly just hoping that you would regurgitate your argument on FB. I thought it would be fun.

To be honest, I no longer want any part of this.
Yes, I am concerned with my social life, because it plays a practical role in my everyday life. I am concerned with human nature, and practicality.

In our most recent gtalk chat, you said that you will not "agree to disagree". It was then that we reached an impasse. I have nothing more to ever say to you.

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posted by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 11:05AM

Fuck you. This isn't a fucking soap opera, where you could change history the next second, and pretend whatever you want.

You held a strong enough convinction to CRITICIZE me PERSONALLY (by calling me an *IDIOT*) and publically no less. And then, instead of apologizing, you try to ignore the problem--delete the post. But you CAN'T delete the offense you already committed in my head!

I don't accept your apology for your ignorance! You seem content with it!! Part of an apology is a promise to change! You STILL support my VIOLENT imprisonment. I bet you STILL don't realize which one of your fucked up brainwashed ideologies are DIRECTLY supporting this. But what the fuck do you care. Not your problem.

You're concerned with "human nature"? "Practicality"? How about stopping me from being VIOLENTLY abused and imprisoned for VICTIMLESS "CRIMES"??? Your fucking arrogance knows no bounds.

Of course I will NEVER agree to disagree!! How could I possibly agree to being VIOLENTLY IMPRISONED for having victimized NOBODY.

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posted by dsk on January 20th, 2009 at 8:32AM

Just relax. You know she's teasing you, right? That was all that was.

**EDIT**

I wrote a note here about Rand and your beliefs and my beliefs, but I took it out. One of the neat things about mf was that we could all come here (or dave's former site)... bicker about various things (usually politics and the like) and nobody would hold anything over anyone. Nobody would take it personally, or leave wounded (at least that was the way I took it).

That's just no longer the case. It's not pleasant when you know the other guy is taking everything you say as an insult to him personally, and consequently responds with venom. It just isn't worth it to create all this bad blood.

I suppose it was inevitable. One steers clear of politics and religion at work for good reason. That probably should apply everywhere. Too bad. It was fun for a while.

I'm joining the rest of the gang (rick, dave, paso, etc.) who figured this out a while ago and don't get into arguments about politics.

Somewhat related:
http://xkcd.com/386/

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posted by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 2:43PM

I am truly curious to see where all the others stand on this. It is a little unfair that Dsk gets all the fun.

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I agree
posted by pasofol on January 20th, 2009 at 4:35PM

to disagree.

I'm a pasofist(pacifist) after all.
I side with dsk more then with you den. Mostly because I live in a immoral world with the need for some kind of body to monitor it. That's not to say that the monitor in place hasn't gone too far in some cases and is violating my rights as an individual. The LAWs that have been created places individual rights very low on the scale sadly.

It's the worser of two evils which I accept. You claim that is wrong and stupid. That's fine and thats your oppinion. (I would like to see you do more about it though not just hammer it among us who aren't simple minded enough to just accept someone else's point of view because they claim to be right.) Just don't expect me to change my view of the world which I view as a realist. It differs from DSK, yours, daves, ricks, etc.

No offense but you seem to have limited concept as to what is happening around you and around the world. The bike example is probably the best I can show that your thinking is flawed. You claimed no one would steal it based on the simple fact it's wrong. A lot of people have little to no respect to others. You seem to miss that point a lot and base an anarchist world without them.

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posted by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 6:47PM

You're an idiot.

"I live in an immoral world"

(1) I don't?
(2) No shit--morality is completely relative to each person.
(3) So what?

I never attempt to take away YOUR ability to protect yourself and your property. I would probably encourage you to continue paying for your own police and other social systems. Just leave me the fuck out of them. What's your problem with that?

You naively and blindly parrot State propaganda--casually dimissing violations of "individual rights" as "necessary evils" bla bla bla. That makes absolutely no sense. Details aside, you have NO right violating MY freedoms, PERIOD. Why do you have such a hard time accepting that? It's not fucking brain surgery.

"The worser of two evils". What the fuck are these two evils? Freedom or Slavery. What the fuck do you pick again?

And, clearly, you all are INCREDIBLY SIMPLE MINDED, since you ALL accept the status quo--the Statist structure--and most important of all *MY OPPRESSION*. (I'm pretty sure. What the fuck are we arguing about here anyways, Pasofol. IP? Anarchy? What?)

And why the fuck are you insulting me? You don't think I have a realistic view of the world?? No offense??? You think I have some kind of "limited" understanding of things?? Well fuck you too! Where the fuck do you get the balls to patronize me like that!?. Must be the same place as Princess Nylorac.

And you can't be serious about that fucking childish bike anecdote. DUDE--it was ages ago, and it was a fucking JOKE. I knew full well there was a risk of it getting stolen, but since I used it ALL the time, locking it every fucking minute was a PITA--so I accepted the risk for the added convenience. You can bet your fucking ass that when I rode an expensive bike downtown, I locked it up! ALWAYS!

I'm not a fucking moron Pasofol! Wake the fuck up. I know full well there are tonnes of dickheads in the world. The majority, really! You're one of them, apparently, for example!! I don't conjure up any "anarchist worlds" or other such nonsense as you suggest. All I give a fuck about is trying to stop other people (LIKE YOU) from automatically feeling entitled to control MY LIFE--WHICH YOU STILL DO--RIGHT? RIGHT?--because you have been brainwashed or some shit.

WAKE UP!

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From DSK - "That's just no lon by rick on January 20th, 2009 at 7:37PM.

No shit sherlock. But, what by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 8:24PM.

"But, what's worse... verbal v by rick on January 21st, 2009 at 12:17AM.

Ricky. How the fuck can you be by dennisn on January 21st, 2009 at 11:20AM.

Silence. Problem solved! by dennisn on January 23rd, 2009 at 12:08PM.

Ignoring me--very mature. And by dennisn on January 24th, 2009 at 11:08PM.

I just don't have enough info. by Vina on January 25th, 2009 at 12:48PM.

What info? Supporting my impri by dennisn on January 25th, 2009 at 1:04PM.

All i see is that you're comp by Vina on January 25th, 2009 at 1:09PM.

Try reading a little. It reall by dennisn on January 25th, 2009 at 1:11PM.

suggesting someone to choose a by Vina on January 25th, 2009 at 1:36PM.

Vina. Stop being a puppet. by dennisn on January 25th, 2009 at 1:43PM.

I like the Ricky style by Vina on January 25th, 2009 at 1:53PM.

I know. You all apparently do. by dennisn on January 25th, 2009 at 1:59PM.

http://z.about.com/d/political by dsk on January 25th, 2009 at 8:58PM.

I vote for picture #2 by Vina on January 26th, 2009 at 10:06PM.

Do you agree that all taxation by dennisn on January 27th, 2009 at 10:51AM.

> that IP enforcement is evil by dsk on January 27th, 2009 at 11:08AM.

Why are you avoiding the quest by dennisn on January 27th, 2009 at 11:22AM.

Wha? I'm pretty sure you were by dsk on January 27th, 2009 at 11:46AM.

You read the question also. It by dennisn on January 27th, 2009 at 11:54AM.

Satisfied? by dsk on January 27th, 2009 at 12:11PM.

I have to say, you are a lot m by rick on January 27th, 2009 at 10:48PM.

Why are saying that to him? An by dennisn on January 27th, 2009 at 11:22PM.

Oops ... I was mistaken. I did by rick on January 27th, 2009 at 11:56PM.

I know - I had the same expect by Nylorac on January 28th, 2009 at 8:19AM.

Why? Correct me if I'm wrong, by dennisn on January 28th, 2009 at 11:44AM.

. by Nylorac on January 28th, 2009 at 8:18AM.

Yeah--I feel really bad for ha by dennisn on January 27th, 2009 at 12:22PM.

I have no idea what you're tal by Driusan on January 25th, 2009 at 8:07PM.

State oppression. Everyone, ap by dennisn on January 25th, 2009 at 8:16PM.

posted by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 11:32AM

Just to recap, you call my ideology, which I have put a LOT of effort into, and which you share a great deal of, a *scum* of the world, and intellectually shallow.
SLAP.
SLAP.

You also ignore (at least for the past many months) all the issues I raise, which exclusively involve my freedom, and have NO affect on YOU. But worse than ignoring them, you OPPOSE them! And in doing so, DIRECTLY support violent aggression against me.
SLAP.
SLAP.

Direct insults and threats of violence.

Any apologies? NO.
Any changes of mind? NO.
Fuck you!

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posted by dennisn on January 20th, 2009 at 11:08AM

Good. Ignore the problem. Keep supporting your absurd laws and politicians that will VIOLENTLY IMPRISON ME. No need to ruffle any feathers here.

Nice weather outside, eh? Brrrrr. Pretty cold. Hahahaha. It's called winter. Hahaha. Lol. I'm cool. Politics is for losers.

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