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posted by Vina on November 25th, 2008 at 6:27PM

History has been manipulated countless times.   There is nothing to be corrupted when it has already been corrupted.   Because nothing is certain by now, maybe what I provided for the presentation was right.
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posted by dennisn on November 25th, 2008 at 8:03PM

By the way, how did you figure the phrase meant "the right man at the right time"? I don't get it.

And why did your boss ask you, instead of google?

posted by Vina on November 25th, 2008 at 9:07PM

By Wiki.   It was written in Chinese, though.   Also, by Robert Kennedy's speech.   He brought this proverb up, and ever since, journalists have been using this proverb in their articles.

My boss wanted a deeper meaning to it.   Simply saying the proverb is a curse to wish someone a terrible time is too superficial.   Chinese proverbs are very abstract, it is never expressed in any direct format, and it is hardly sarcastic.   English translations to Chinese literature is always distorted in some kind of way.   Not that they mean to, but Chinese literature is complicated.

posted by dennisn on November 25th, 2008 at 10:26PM

I still don't get it. In Bob Kennedy's speech, http://en.wikipedia.org/w...firmation_speech, he also claims it's a simple curse, though he mentions the brighter interpretation of "interesting" as well.

I think you're looking too deeply into it. Are you fluent in mandarin/cantonese, by the way?

posted by Vina on November 26th, 2008 at 6:53PM

Cantonese.

The point of Chinese literature is to think deeply.

And what's the point of (good) by dennisn on November 27th, 2008 at 12:26AM.
Exploit the rules: form, chara by Nylorac on November 27th, 2008 at 8:33AM.
You don't think Chinese litera by dennisn on November 27th, 2008 at 12:08PM.
I didn't say that. by Nylorac on November 27th, 2008 at 12:55PM.