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posted by dennisn on July 17th, 2023 at 8:10AM
> There are lots of memes on the Internet about how Ancaps will have human trafficking, child slaves
You're repeating yourself, stuck in a loop. You didn't understand my point - your fear/ideology is based on the incoherent idea that the people who care most about consent will be less likely to respect it, compared to those who are already eagerly calling for violations of it.
> McNukes
Will your King George outlaw nukes? Or nukes for thee but not for me? Maybe outlaw nuclear energy too? Lots of environmentalists say the negatives outweigh the positives. So many unanswered questions for your king.
> but they really aren't joking [about being okay with child slavery]
You are a clown, you can't be taken seriously. But yea, like I said, ofc you commies have to do this, you have to dehumanize your enemies in order to rationalize their enslavement/murder. Obviously if me and Riya are okay with child slavery we have to be brutally stopped asap.
> If Ancaps ever achieved their pipe dream fantasy, the reality is that they would be fighting and killing each other over claimed territory
There you go, so we have to be enslaved today to prevent this INEVITABLE OBVIOUS GUARANTEED future. Me and Riya will be killing and fighting each other over borders - we're just that retarded and violent - we're such stupid fucking animals that we need your benevolent ubermensches to "subdue" us.
> until one of them finally topples their enemies and establishes a monopoly over the territory
Mhm. The people most worried about monopolies, the people who care most about opt-out options, will implement a non-opt-out monopoly. You clown.
> just like how Afghan mujahideen warlords fought each other until the Taliban conquered everything
Right, because crazy mystical child-beating non-consent-respecting are basically the same as hyper-rational hyper-consent-respecting ancaps. Clown.
> Polycentric Law is impossible
Okay clown. I guess we have to be enslaved then. We can still be friends though!
(I'm assuming you don't want sharia law at the mono-center of your law ;). Or any of the various ancient aboriginal legal systems ;))
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Dennis is a Liarposted by sleepy-sniper on July 17th, 2023 at 6:24PM
I've always been pro-nuclear energy, but regular civilians have no need for nuclear weapons to defend themselves.
> We (ancaps) will be killing and fighting each other over borders
Yeah, you will. You don't believe it, but that's exactly what will happen. Anarcho-Capitalism = All-Out War
> Right, because crazy mystical child-beating non-consent-respecting are basically the same as hyper-rational hyper-consent-respecting ancaps.
Oh, right. You'll have an imaginary world where everybody agrees with you and does exactly what you want to happen without any force. How exactly do you expect to ever make this happen? You're such a clown.
> The people most worried about monopolies, the people who care most about opt-out options, will implement a non-opt-out monopoly.
You can't guarantee that the political corporation CEOs will provide "opt-out" options. You're just hoping and imagining that they will.
> To clarify, you're better than us, right?
I never said that.
Without population control, I would have as many children as I possibly can, because why the hell not if I can get away with it? Just like how BG has 5 kids and many more via sperm donation. There are even people who have had literally HUNDREDS of children, and they won't stop unless governments force them to, because reproduction is a free-rider problem: https://www.bbc.com/news/w...-europe-65429936
> Do you have any explanation for how homo sapien managed to maintain a breeding rate of ~2 offspring, since the dawn of time?
Yeah, in Europe, it was by disease, you dumbass. In the pre-Columbian Americas, it was tribal warfare: https://zerocontradictions...s#tribal-warfare
> maybe make them wear some kind of insignia on their arms to signify if they're allowed to breed
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posted by dennisn on July 17th, 2023 at 7:09PM
> Dennis is a Liar
Projection. (When are you going to apologize for lying about your parents assaulting you? And for calling Riya's first messages on Axolotl's blog spam?) I was trying to find out what your positions are, they're so vague and incoherent. I STILL don't know what they are! You have ignored most my questions. I have answered literally all of yours.
> I've always been pro-nuclear energy
You missed my point. Other people are against it. What will you do about them? Fuck 'em, right? Obviously King George's verdict is the final monopoly one?
> but regular civilians have no need for nuclear weapons to defend themselves.
Says you, and King George. Again, you really can't see anything from anyone else's perspective. Assange needs a nuke at the moment. Ulbricht needs one too. Plenty of civilians do!
> Anarcho-Capitalism = All-Out War
Your mom = all-out war. My strawman is actually closer to the truth, she literally already did violently assault innocents, in reality, not just in fearful imagination, far in the future.
> world where everybody agrees with you and does exactly what you want to happen without any force.
Okay so you were never an ancap, gotcha. You don't even know what it is. Your entire world is made of straw :P.
The whole point of anarchism, of voluntarism, is to remove that obvious centralizing devouring black hole of evil, the "social license" to violate people's rights, things that if any other individual did they'd be killed. It's precisely because we all have the tendency to commit evil that we should never tempt ourselves. And, as I said, we value the idea of opting out the most, we're the most likely group of people to respect that others will NOT agree with us, and we'd do our best to accomodate that - unlike you faggot who has no problem with CONTROLLING THE ENTIRE MOTHER FUCKING CONTINENT (/ planet? / solar system?)
> How exactly do you expect to ever make this happen?
Make what happen? Are you aware that most security forces on the planet are currently private? Think mall cops, security guards, etc. Are you aware that private dispute resolution organizations already exist? Wtf are you asking?
> You can't guarantee that the political corporation CEOs will provide "opt-out" options.
Neither can you dumbass. But the consistency of ancaps, our track record, is spotless. The track record of you faggots (eg. your mom) is horrifying. Imagine if that whore actually had power. Imagine if YOU actually had power. Frightening.
> You're just hoping and imagining that they will.
Ditto. The difference is you're the one pushing for the initiation of violence/enslavement of me. I'd let you live in your commie citadels. You wouldn't extend that courtesy to me. Axolotl would violently prevent it, as he repeatedly said. Psychos. It's time like these when I'm perversely satisfied with the statist status quo - it has kept you psycho nerds out of the halls of power. At least Biden wouldn't violently stop me from breeding. P.s.y.c.h.o.s. It's hilarious how you've never flinched from this position, even slightly, no matter how many times I highlight it. :))))))). Hopeless.
I mean, dude, think about it ... you're trying to tell another random man that you've never met that he needs to ask you for permission TO PROCREATE. Whenever I try putting myself in your shoes, I freak out :D. It's a really disturbing place to be.
> I would have as many children as I possibly can, because why the hell not if I can get away with it?
I LITERALLY JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU WHY YOU WOULDNT DO THAT. YOU. ARE. FUCKING. DUMB.
Re-read the bit about human birth rates. Homo sapien does not reproduce like cockroaches, or like rabbits, or cats, you fucking moron.
> I would have as many children as I possibly can
This is such a waste of time. You're such a dishonest stupid fag, never arguing in good faith. "as many as you can", eh? Every cum load can yield, idk, say a billion. You'd have a billion kids? Really? So you don't care about starving kids to death? Waste of time/life, sigh. Stop wasting my life dude. You need therapy.
But yea, whenever I ask such questions, ie. asking a commie if THEY are the type of person they fear, or if it's some other nebulous dark malevolent stranger, the short circuiting is hilarious to observe. You can't say the latter, cuz that exposes how you're full of shit, how youre just a paranoid fearful faggot, lost in fear, not based in reality ... but you can't say the former either cuz that exposes how fucking retarded you are, so the inevitable decision is always the same .... you say the former IN A JOKING way, you larp being the malefactor, just to provide an example of the person you're trying to restrain. Axolotl did this too when he larped being a psycho who'd nuke Liberland and other ancap citadels. Obviously he's a limp wristed skinny wristed (fat bellied) nerd, but he needed SOMETHING to justify his psycho lust to enslave other people, so he turned himself into an evil psycho that I need to be defended from :P. Y'all are pathetic, and sooooo dishonest. Talking to dishonest people is a waste of life. This is why you're alone, btw.
> Yeah, in Europe, it was by disease, you dumbass.
No dumbas, it's genetic hard wiring. Dunning-Kruger. Different species have different breeding rates, different behaviours.
> Stop strawmanning me, retard. I only ever proposed licenses, NOT insignia
OH HUGE DIFFERENCE. THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION! I'M SURE THE JEWS WILL BE TOTALLY DOWN FOR THIS PLAN, enlsavement, but no arm badge this time. GREAT!
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Dennis wants to abduct childrenposted by sleepy-sniper on July 17th, 2023 at 8:03PM
> When are you going to apologize for lying about your parents assaulting you?
I never lied, so I don't know what you're talking about.
> And for calling Riya's first messages on Axolotl's blog spam?
A computer program determined that her comments were spam, because they were.
> I have answered literally all of yours.
No, you haven't, you fucking idiot.
> Other people are against it. What will you do about them? Fuck 'em, right?
Yeah, of course. Being against nuclear energy is unsustainable and retarded.
> Assange needs a nuke at the moment. Ulbricht needs one too. Plenty of civilians do!
Brilliant idea, then the entire world will be living in a nuclear wasteland.
> She literally already did violently assault innocents.
Fuck you! You're such an asshole. My parents never assaulted anyone, and yet you're still lying your ass off about it. If you don't stop, I'll have to sue you for slandering.
> The whole point of anarchism, of voluntarism, is to remove that obvious centralizing devouring black hole of evil, the "social license" to violate people's rights, things that if any other individual did they'd be killed.
You never explained how you're going to accomplish that.
> It's precisely because we all have the tendency to commit evil that we should never tempt ourselves.
You never defined evil. You just take it for granted, and every explanation that you give just begs the question of something else.
> unlike you faggot who has no problem with CONTROLLING THE ENTIRE MOTHER FUCKING CONTINENT (/ planet? / solar system?)
You never gave a solution for how Ancap societies would solve game-theoretic problems.
> Are you aware that most security forces on the planet are currently private? Think mall cops, security guards, etc.
The only reason why they're possible is because the State established the free markets that are necessary for them to arm themselves. They also exist in a world with government, so they de facto rely on the State to help them enforce their security every single day.
> The consistency of ancaps, our track record, is spotless.
Liar!! You said that you would confiscate Blithering Genius's children just because you don't like his beliefs.
I repeat, if you ever abduct someone else's kid, I'll fucking kill you and pump your organs full of lead. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU FUCKING VIOLENT PIECE OF SHIT??!!
> The track record of you faggots (eg. your mom) is horrifying.
You fucking liar!! I wasn't kidding. If you keep lying and slandering about this shit, I'll have to sue you. STOP OR ELSE.
> The difference is you're the one pushing for the initiation of violence/enslavement of me.
Fuck off!! If you ever seized power, you would become a dictator, and you would abduct and brainwash everybody's children to believe in your retarded ideas.
Your idea of a utopia is a world where dictators fight wars with each other, just like drug cartels in Mexico. And you really think that your dictatorship will beat all the other dictators (e.g. Alhazred, boutyht, Molyneux, Kinsella, etc) and enforce your special legal code. You're so delusional.
> I literally just told you why you wouldn't do that.
I literally just gave you an example of a guy who has over 500 children. If I could have that many, I will.
> Homo sapien does not reproduce like cockroaches, or like rabbits, or cats, you fucking moron.
Wrong, all species procreate to excess: https://thewaywardaxolotl....ry-is-bogus.html
> This is why you're alone, btw.
Projection. I have waaaay more friends than you. Unlike you, I don't cut people off from my life just because they disagree with me.
> No, it's genetic hard wiring.
WRONG. All species procreate as much as possible: https://thewaywardaxolotl....ry-is-bogus.html
When are you ever going to give up and admit that you've been lying this whole time?? I'd stop arguing with you if you were at least honest in admitting that you just want to be a violent, child-abducting dictator.
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posted by dennisn on July 17th, 2023 at 3:54PM
> we're such stupid fucking animals that we need your benevolent ubermensches to "subdue" us
To clarify, you're better than us, right? You're an ubermensch, wiser, smarter, just better overall? Or are you also too retarded to breed properly, and you need someone to meter that for you? And you're too retarded and malicious to be allowed to emborder land, so you need a better man to manage that for you? Maybe Axolotl?
Do you have any explanation for how homo sapien managed to maintain a breeding rate of ~2 offspring, since the dawn of time? (When couples had 10+ kids, that was to compensate for most of them not making it to adulthood, only ~2 survived to breed.)
And obviously native indians, the Mohawks the Cree, the Iroquois etc will all have to follow King George's rules, right? The Inuit too, right? And all the muslims in the world. Obviously they're all wrong, and so are all their customs surrounding land management and breeding. Jews too, right? You will require them to submit to George's breeding rules - maybe make them wear some kind of insignia on their arms to signify if they're allowed to breed or something?
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