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posted by jenni on January 13th, 2015 at 10:49PM

Life is just a series of moments. Fill those moments with distractions from the inevitable, distractions like good music: enter good music:

https://www.youtube.com/wa...ch?v=HBsZbL-Akms
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posted by dennisn on January 14th, 2015 at 9:27PM

> Angels on the sideline,
> Puzzled and amused.
> Why did Father give these humans free will?
> Now they're all confused.

Religiosity. Vomit.


> Don't these talking monkeys know that
> Eden has enough to go around?
> Plenty in this holy garden, silly monkeys,
> Where there's one you're bound to divide it.
> Right in two.

Standard leftist bullshit. The problem is not scarcity of resources, or inability to share. It's a fundamental lack of understanding of ethics, which includes property rights and individual rights, and rational thinking. Which, ironically, this song is shitting all over, with it's appeal to religious mythology.


> Angels on the sideline,
> Baffled and confused.
> Father blessed them all with reason.
> And this is what they choose.
> And this is what they choose...

No, reason is not some "blessing" or "gift". It's a hard-earned skill. Which is sorely lacking in the majority of the population.


> Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
> Over pieces of the ground.

Wrong. This is a gross over-simplification and misunderstanding of human conflict. Again, it's roots are irrational beliefs, not scarce resources. Nazis didn't kill Jews to acquire scarce resources. Ross Ulbricht is not being caged because of scarce resources.


> Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
> They forge a blade,

How the fuck is a hunting weapon, and a tool for self defense, and a myriad other things, "silly"??


> And where there's one
> they're bound to divide it,
> Right in two.
> Right in two.
>
> Monkey killing monkey killing monkey.
> Over pieces of the ground.
> Silly monkeys give them thumbs.
> They make a club.
> And beat their brother, down.
> How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

Maybe the dude should study a bit more evolutionary biology (evolutionarily stable populations/ecosystems) and economics, instead of making dumb monotonous music :P, and things would be a bit less mysterious.


> Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
> to live to light a heaven conscious of his fleeting time here.

I guess. Not sure what he means by "squander" though. And how well he lives up to his standards.


> Cut it all right in two [x4]
>
> Fight over the clouds, over wind, over sky
> Fight over life, over blood, over prayer,
> overhead and light
> Fight over love, over sun,
> over another, Fight...

THE FIGHT IS NOT OVER FUCKING RESOURCES -- IT'S OVER IRRATIONAL CONFLICTING IDEAS.


> Angels on the sideline again.
> Been soon long with patience and reason.
> Angels on the sideline again
> Wondering when this tug of war will end.
>
> Cut it all right in two [x3]
> RIGHT IN TWO!

posted by jenni on January 15th, 2015 at 11:26PM

This is perhaps the most in depth analysis of a Tool song I have read. It reminds me of the analysis you wrote about the film Harold and Maude, pointing out the obvious with a twist of lemon :). Although, I always assumed the religiosity in their music was more of a mockery of religion than anything else. Monotonous is not how I would describe their sound, more like beautiful beats that echo between my ears. And that drummer...[insert drooling emoticon here].

posted by dennisn on January 16th, 2015 at 5:09AM

How would you interpret the religious symbolism as mocking those religious beliefs? Googling around says that he is religious:

"some recent events have led me to the rediscovery of Jesus" [1]

"My views against Christianity or religion in general are directed towards the 'middle men'-those who are in power and use religion as a market force by which to manipulate human beings for their own personal gain [and not the core religious beliefs themselves]. The middle men taint any purity of spirituality that could result from genuine religious/mystical experiences" [2]

[1] http://www.mtv.com/news/1...-the-conclusion/

[2] http://toolband.ru/forum/...ames-keenan.html

posted by jenni on January 16th, 2015 at 5:34PM

I thought I once listened to an interview where the singer discussed wine making and atheism. Perhaps my brain is mixing two people together.
Although:

"What do you think is/are the greatest injustice(s) occurring in the world right now?"

MK: "Religion, TV, and media." [2]

You're taking that out of cont by dennisn on January 16th, 2015 at 5:42PM.
Yeah, he always seemed a tad b by jenni on January 16th, 2015 at 6:35PM.