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Assignment1: Education After Auschwitz
posted by dennisn on July 29th, 2012 at 9:38AM

http://ada.evergreen.edu/...rnoEducation.pdf

Short essay, commenting and critiquing it. Due Tuesday August 7th, noon.
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Education after Auschwitz, A dialog
posted by karina on September 2nd, 2012 at 9:18AM

Adorno wrote Education after Auschwitz in 1967, not long time after the atrocities that had left the world perplex. His main point is to understand why common people with no particular training to be a torturer were able to do such things and also why society in general did nothing about it.   At the time he and others from the Frankfurt school were very influenced by Freud, so in order to have a better glance at his text is important to know what Freud’s theory about civilization and also Adorno’s idea of education and love.
Adorno is convinced that there is something psychoanalyse can do in order to preclude Auschwitz from happening again, he believes that there is something within human nature that explains what happened. Adorno is trying to avoid the idea that evil can not be understood and hence ignored or naturalized. Evil is rational and once understood can be avoid, that is his hope.
He uses Freud’s theory of civilization and its discontents to understand why people leaving in the farms were more predisposed to work with the Nazis as tortures even if they were neighbours, friends, of those being tortured. Freud says that humans have certain instincts that are immutable: desire for sex and predisposition to violent aggressions towards authority figures and towards sexual competitors. Civilization is the oppressive entity that demands conformity and instinctual repression, and by always demanding repression it creates discontent citizens.
Adorno uses this notion to explain why people living in the farms were more predisposed to torture, because they were somehow less exposed to civilization and hence the "primitive" feelings usually repressed by civilization were actually less repressed. This could be discussed until today, with Internet available to almost everyone would Auschwitz still happen?   The answer is yes, we just need to remember what happened to Rwanda, Bosnia, not so long time ago.
The solution he proposes is education and love. An education that is based on freedom and love, an education that provides the tools for the individual to be free and active, an active thinker capable of reflecting about society and about oneself. And love. Love would be the answer. The capability of feeling connexion to one another, being able to have compassion, but he also says that perhaps this kind of love does not exist. Perhaps we are not able to love but those close of us, otherwise Rwanda and Bosnia would never had happen.
I really like this libertarian education idea, the same that was develop years latter by Paulo Freire and expanded to the feminism realm by Bell Hooks. Adorno believes that if we understand what happened and why it happened we could prevent it form happening again. Education would be a tool to give people consciousness, since love is not something that can be taught, enlightenment would be the answer, awareness, so Auschwitz would not happen again.
I still believe it.

posted by dennisn on September 2nd, 2012 at 7:02PM

I do not think that humans have a natural/instinctive predisposition to violence/aggresion against authority figures. (Unless, of course, those authority figures are evil and their power over us is illegitimate, but in that case a better word for them would be "oppressors" or "slave-masters", and in that case, yes, we have a natural aversion to that :p. But to legitimate authority (that is voluntarily respected), we have no such aversion.) And I don't think that was his explanation, for why rural areas allegedly generated more sadistic people. He mentioned a few cultural traditions throughout rural Germany at the time, which were very sadistic and violent. So it was actually "civilization" (i.e. the rural cultural traditions) that played a key role in the "barbarization" of rural people's, he claims. (Similarly, in modern times, I would similarly argue that it is "civilization" (i.e. the modern irrational beliefs/traditions surrounding statism, that we are constantly propagandized with) that constantly teaches us to be violent -- albeit in more sophisticated ways.)

I also think that although the Internet isn't an immediate 100%-guaranteed fix, it is by far the most incredible solution we have to such problems as Auschwitz. I'm pretty sure if Adorno was around today, he would have said that the Internet is exactly what is needed. The Bosnians and Rwandans that you mentioned for the most part did not have the internet. The Balkan war occurred in the early 90s, when the Internet barely existed. I doubt there were more than a few dozen Internet users there. And, I would bet that those that did have the net were not barbaric, saw the futility and brutality of violence, and probably got the fuck out of there fast.

I don't think he actually proposed anything though, except for extremely vague ideas about actively going into the least educated areas, somehow voluntarily, and somehow making them aware of things. He doesn't really give any more details than that :P. Well, besides teaching them that perhaps their traditions are dangerous and worth exploring. But I think he's missing out on a tonne of other factors -- most importantly, all the other aspects in which violence is present in their lives, especially their childhoods. He doesn't really focus on childhood a lot, which is probably where the root of all these problems really lies. He doesn't mention religion or statism. The essay leaves us much work to do :p.

Tease. I want my money back.
posted by dennisn on August 7th, 2012 at 5:36PM

The only hint of a concrete solution that Theodor offers us, despite kindof teasing us with more in the title, is some kind of "mobile convoy of volunteer [teachers]." One that somehow (he doesn't explain how) would spread enlightenment about people's inner and external motivations -- a "critical self-reflection" as he calls it. A kind of intervention-education. Especially to the far reaches of isolated barbaric rural settlements. I suppose the internet is just such a contemporary "mobile convoy". To that, I would also add that our best hope with such an intervention (and it is indeed a tiny tiny hope) is with our closest family and friends. If we can't teach them (and, from personal experience, I have so far failed completely in all my attempts), then our chances are even worse with strangers. As Molyneux mentions, most adult brains are traumatized from early childhood, and are unopen to reason and evidence.

He also hints at "modifying mass media", which is a bit anachronistic in today's internet age, where everyone is the locus of their very own mass media. Although, at the time he wrote this essay (mid '90s?), I think that was a futile and dirty proposal. Futile, because it should be pretty obvious that the obsolete TV/print/radio media is entirely owned by powerful fascistic business interests, and dirty because it necessarily means compromising many principles, for the utilitarian promise of a wider audience.

He does tell us there are certain things we shouldn't bother doing. "I do not believe it would help much to appeal to eternal values [ethics], at which the very people who are prone to commit such atrocities would merely shrug their shoulders." I think this is a big mistake. Humans are moral animals -- we actually have little tolerance for doing evil. (I dare you to name me one person who enjoys evil.) The problem with the German National Socialists wasn't that they were evil monsters -- in fact, it was that the vast majority of them did not know they were committing evil. They were either brainwashed into thinking Jews were sub-human or evil themselves, or they were simply completely oblivious to what was going on. Either way, I think discussing and reinforcing evidence and ethics, in some kind of voluntary interventionist way, is the best solution.

He tells us we shouldn't bother spreading the message of love, since those who need it most are incapable of appreciating it. However, I think if instead love was spread by action and example, rather than merely as a cognitive message, it would be very effective.

I do like his state-socialism/collectivism bashing that is peppered throughout the essay. He urges us not to blindly cooperate with norms, external authorities and collectivization; not to place "the right of the state over that of its members"; not to treat others "as an amorphous mass." He describes the current modern (social-democratic) culture as an "administered world" that is "claustrophobic of humanity" -- a "feeling of being incarcerated in a thoroughly societalized, closely woven, netlike environment." Even the good intentions of state-socialism, he bashes: "the exhortation to love is itself part of the ideology coldness perpetutates. It bears the compulsive, oppressive quality that counteracts the ability to love."

I like his commentary on the dangers of repression, and how it played a key role in the development of Auschwitz.

I am not late
posted by jenni on August 8th, 2012 at 7:43PM

I am just re-reading your commentary over and over and looking at the text again and again, just press pause and I will be right back.

8/10
posted by jenni on August 9th, 2012 at 4:12PM

First, what I don't understand is his debasing of people in the countryside. The lack of access to proper education and resources is what he is stating is the root of the problem of why country folk are not as cultured or autonomous as those who live in an urban area, yet the problem with education is or has not been the lack of it, its the lack of curiosity in the individuals to educate themselves outside of the designated education systems. Which happens in urban areas just as frequently so this idea to 'debarbarize' the countryside confuses me.

He states that early childhood education is one of the best possible ways to logically explain to people right from wrong, to learn from the start to question authority and to reflect on what has been taught. This idea seems only logical to most yet this is basically what lacks in society is that we are not taught how to be good human beings, how to be rational, how to think for ourselves. We are taught anything but the basic and fundamental aspects of humanity. Why, we can answer that with many things, for one, people who are rational tend to be dangerous to those in power, those who want us to comply and do evil deeds amongst ourselves to benefit their ideologies.

The lack of a concrete solution seems to be the general fact for many philosophies, we know things are not right, change is necessary yet how that change comes about is a question of trial and error, in my opinion, to evolve. History has shown that those with concrete solutions seem to use their 'solutions' for harm and personal gain, rarely for the benefit of the masses.

History is filled with trial and error events and ideas, good and bad. Sadly the bad makes a much larger impact for most of the world, but the good trials that have been done by those who truly believe/know they are right have endlessly saved humanity from being truly brutal.

I -heart-
posted by jenni on August 9th, 2012 at 4:23PM

The rant on 'love' seems almost neurotic to me. He speaks of it as if it is only imperative and not a basic human emotion, that people actually do want to love each other seems to be out of the question. "Love is something immediate and in essence contradicts mediated relationships." What makes a great teacher/doctor/lawyer is their love for people and the unbearable need to not only help but be a part of the lives of others. If there was more love there would be less war (I feel like Bob Marley probably said this).

"[The lack of curiosity (and b by dennisn on August 9th, 2012 at 9:06PM.
I think we all start off relat by jenni on August 11th, 2012 at 11:42AM.
Yep. One thing that certainly by dennisn on August 11th, 2012 at 4:21PM.

posted by jenni on July 29th, 2012 at 8:38PM

Do we punish each other if we are late?

posted by dennisn on July 30th, 2012 at 7:49AM

Yes.